5 Statements That Will Make Stoners Hate Me
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I know after you read this post, some may hate me. That’s not what I’m aiming for. The people who know me personally know I have a lot of opinions on a lot of different things. Some they don’t agree with, but they don’t despise me for having them. The only reason I’m posting this is because it may intrigue you, confuse you, or even anger you. And I like when books and movies effect me in this way. I don’t want to feel empty emotionally after reading something. I just want to feel something. Anything! Anything that triggers some deep thought. So just know I don’t want to make anyone mad at me, or in general, just think about what I say. I believe I make valid points, but I could be wrong. No one’s perfect. And leave me a comment if you must. Positive or negative, its all good by me. And also, sorry about the seriousness of this paragraph… I’m fucking baked right now. Sativa makes me really philosophical.
1) Half Baked Sucked
I honestly didn’t like this movie. Hate is too strong of a word in this scenario. “I disliked this movie a lot’ is what I will say. I thought the script was pretty weak and some of the acting was way too cartoonish. To be fair, the first time I watched Half Baked, I wasn’t baked. And it was on TV, so that means the cussing was cut out. And, I didn’t smoke weed at the time. (I was 10 when it came out and 14 when I first watched it) Film school however was populated with stoners and after a while, I jumped on the cannabis band-wagon. (Not sure what a “Cannabis Band-Wagon” is, but it sounds bad ass right?) So I gave Half-Baked another chance, because everyone sees the film as a “classic”, and I thought I was missing out. But, I got fully baked with my friends one night and watched it, and was again disappointed.
During the movie I’m saying out loud, “This is so stupid, how can you guys like this movie?”. In front of all my friends, who had shocked and puzzled looks on their faces. Jim Breuer is NOT funny and his character “Brian” was stupid and annoying. And whenever they got high, suddenly, they’re flying around clouds and rainbows and shit. I don’t care if you’re Snoop, no weed is that good. The stuff they were smoking must have been laced with LSD or mushrooms (‘shrooms are good times by the way). The movie wasn’t all bad, as I loved Dave Chappelle and Harland Williams. Both are great in this movie. I just wish someone would write a realistic portrayal of stoners, and stop with the caricatures that infest stoner comedies these days (I’m looking at you, Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle).
I guess I’ll have to write a good stoner comedy myself… oh wait a minute I already am, but that’s another story.
2) There’s No Good Stoner Music
Pictured above are Kottonmouth Kings. They are everything that is wrong with pot-influenced music today. It is extremely hard to find some good stoner music and that upsets me. I love listening to music high, but I just can’t stand sub-par music. Along with Kottonmouth Kings, I’m not a big fan of Cypress Hill either. Everyone just sounds the same.
All of the pro-marijuana rap groups simply repeat a generic beat, talk through the lyrics (which are so fucking lame), and look silly. WTF is up with the dude in the mask? And what’s with the eyeliner, dude? Isn’t eyeliner reserved for goth chicks and emo singers? I don’t get it. Maybe I’m not cool enough. That’s a very good possibility.
Moving away from rap, let me give you the opportunity to hate me some more. Reggae music is over-rated. Maybe it’s a cultural thing, but I don’t like most reggae. I’ll give Bob Marley a pass, only because he’s a fucking legend. “I Shot the Sheriff” is awesome, but other than that, most reggae is repetitive and boring. The only excuse I can give, is that I’m white. Sorry.
3) Certain Stoners Give Stoners A Bad Name
You know what I’m talking about here. There are two types of pot smokers that can be total buzzkills. The tree-hugging environmentalist stoners and the “Smoked So Much Weed I Appear To Have The IQ Of A 5th Grader” stoners. OK, so I get the fact that marijuana grows out of the ground and that makes it part of “mother nature”, but some take that mind-set too far. The Tree-Huggers get too invested it the mother nature aspect and decide to take on Earth’s welfare as their side-project.
Now stay with me liberals, I’m about to sound like a Republican for the next few sentences. Do you honestly think some plastic fucking bottles will be the down-fall of the planet Earth? This planet has survived billions of years dealing with getting hit by asteroids, UV rays, huge doses of radiation, and who knows what else. Tree-Huggers sound like whack-jobs whenever they talk about “being one with the Earth”.
They give smart, rational thinking stoners a bad name. But not as bad of a name like the next type of stoner that ruins it for everyone; The Dumb Stoner. These type of people sit around all day (they probably don’t have a job) and smoke ditch weed. They smoke bad shit, and in turn, act like morons. Now I’m not saying when you get high to have a conversation on Russian poetry and discuss the metaphors of Boris Pasternak. Just don’t act like a stupid stoner in public and get arrested for assaulting a mall cop. It’s people like this who make is so hard for marijuana to be legalized. Everyone’s scared we’ll have a million Adrianne Curry’s running around.
4) Marijuana Can Be Addictive
This is the one I imagine most people will disagree with me about. But before you type your angry comment, let me explain my position. The drug itself, and the chemical compound responsible for getting you high (Tetrahydrocannabinol aka THC) is not addictive, but the feeling of being high can be addictive for some. This is true mostly in cases of young people smoking marijuana. According to a study conducted in 2000, 15% of people in rehab clinics are there for marijuana and of those people, 46% were under the age of 20. Although I suspect a large majority of the 15% are there on a court-ordered basis, it is naive to say that no one can be addicted to marijuana.
The people who are most likely to become addicted are young, poor, neglected kids. Once you reach your 20′s, I believe your threshold to become more susceptible to addiction decreases. But if you’re 14 and you’re parents are abusive (or just not around at all) and someone hands you a joint, you figure it’s better to be high than deal with your problems. And I don’t blame them. If there’s one thing i believe in more than the legalization of marijuana, it’s the responsible use of marijuana. Middle-schoolers have no business smoking anything, and if you have a chaotic home life, changing the way you feel seems very appealing.
5) The War On Drugs Shouldn’t Be Stopped
Wait! I know that headline sounded bad. Let me explain further. The war on marijuana and other non-harmful drugs should stop, but the war on meth and harder drugs shouldn’t. When you smoke bud, you sit on the couch and watch TV while eating Doritos. When you smoke meth, you mug an old lady for her purse. Smoking marijuana is a victimless crime, but when you’re taking intense, chemically altered drugs, you would do crazy, sometimes violent things you wouldn’t normally do. I do agree that the war on drugs is currently a massive failure and a huge waste of our money, but to completely disband the Drug Enforcement Agency is a bad move.
The DEA just needs to move its focus away from soft drugs and start going after meth labs and heroin dealers. To say that all drugs should be legal, is a bit scary if you put it in realistic terms. Would you feel safe knowing that heroin junkies have protection under the law? I for one, don’t want to live in a society that is OK with people using meth and heroin. It ruins lives and leads to violent acts that wouldn’t be committed if the drug wasn’t in the picture. Let’s just rename it “The War On Hard Drugs”, and start putting these people in rehab, instead of jail. If you’re a drug addict, a few months in jail just gives you new connections and an emotionally scarring violent experience. Put the addicts in rehab instead. No more of this voluntary admittance to rehab clinics anymore. If you’re a danger to society, it should be our job to fix you, get you help, get you a NA Sponsor, and get you back to a normal, fulfilling life. You only get one chance on this planet, don’t mess it up.
Now that I just made you guys think seriously for a moment, I’ll end with a happy note. And by that, I mean a picture of a cute dog with a big bag of bud.
Good Times,
Kyler Durden
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houroc
10.03.2009
LoL!! Let me be the first to say that these are Kylers opinions and not the opinion of all HMJ'ers… I really liked half baked but I couldn't agree with you more on 2,3, and 4. 5 is debatable. Completely legalizing and regulating ALL drugs might be a better option.
Guest
10.05.2009
I'm with Ease on it myself. I'm jamming sublime, Bob Marley and Ben Harper on my playlist at this moment and that's wuts up. Peace.
Sinistry
10.17.2009
I have to say that I agree that half baked wasn't worth all the hype, but all in all it had some funny parts, though the fact that it was so predictable to someone as high as I was when I watched it says something for it, IMHO. Regarding two and three I'd say I agree, never was a fan of Cypress Hill and I don't even know the other band mentioned, but if they similar to the the previously mentioned I'd say it wouldn't do it for me. Yes it is completely true that too many stoners give us all a bad name. Now on to the reason I wanted to respond. Hard drugs are extremely dangerous and should be very carefully monitored, … but prohibition has never worked in any form at any time in the history of mankind going all the way back to the day Adam got it on with Eve…if you believe that sort of thing. Even if you don't one can find many other areas where this holds true. banning anything outright only creates a power vacuum to be filled and more often than not those positions are filled by those who do not have the public's best interest at heart which creates problems for us all. After all, how many fewer drive-bys would there be if gangs didn't control the sales of crack? Education is the most likely way to keep these substances at bay, though I would agree that some people will use no matter how much information is out there. However, I firmly believe that if you give a crack head enough time and enough crack the world will be rid of him soon enough and sometimes that's the best one can hope for.
eaze
10.03.2009
#1 wrong, half baked is fucking awesome, even my non-stoner friends think its a great movie
2# wrong, there is great stoner music all over the place, marijuanamusic.net would be a good place to start
3# partially true, stoners already have a bad name but yes there are some of us that worsen this
4# wrong, it can be habit forming, it is in no way addictive, there is a clear diference between a habit/dependency and an addiction
5# wrong, the war on all drugs should be stopped, just legalising cannabis will not put any of the drug gangs out of business. there would be a noticable increase in the use of other illicit drugs if just weed were legalised as that is what the dealers will now make their profit from.
Chad
10.04.2009
Nice arguments but I think I'm going to side with eaze more, the war on drugs is a really stupid thing, here in mexico it's turning into a full scale war in some states, and with the semi legalization of some drugs, the cops and the military can focus on the really important targets.
Oh and I haven't seen half baked, so I dont really know if it's really awesome.
and most music sounds awesome when you're high
THCLOVER
10.04.2009
with your final point you fail to acknowledge the fact that meth (and other synthetic, homemade drugs) are a product of the war on drugs. I'll keep it short and simple: In the netherlands where drugs are not legal but decriminalized and tolerated, meth labs in peoples basement do not exist. there are a few crackheads, but they are seldom. the DEA receives 20 billion in funding annually, that money could be put to much better and more productive uses. I understand your point that meth is a problem, but almost 40 years of history behind the DEA, they have proved they are not capable of solving any problems.
–THCLOVER
SMC
10.04.2009
#2 Someone has never listened to Kid Cudi
anon
10.04.2009
i dont think crack, meth or heroine should ever be legalized. the "war on drugs" has been a failure so they need to rethink theyre plan of attack. obviously i think bud should be legal.
but more importantly… have you never heard of sublime or SLIGHTLY STOOPID?? sublime is better but stoopid is always singing about smokin bud and theyre music is fantastically chill.
come on man. no stoner music? if there is such thing as stoner culture there is stoner music. snoop is stoner music. anybody singing about bud is stoner music
Pac
10.04.2009
You hit some good points there man.
TermsB
10.04.2009
1) Okay, I'll give you that one.
2) Who says stoner music has to be about getting high? Any music that makes me think about things using my higher brain is what I like to listen to when high.
3) Sure plastic bottles might not be a huge problem to our planet right now but think about if our kids have that same mindset too and another hundred years of our trash just gets piled up. We need to find a solution to it eventually, why not sooner rather than latter?
4) Marijuana is no more addictive than anything else out there. Hell masterbation is atticting, does that mean we shouldn't do it? No, it's a healthy escape from the stresses of life. It's either that or shot up a supermarket, your choice. I'd rather not shoot anyone.
5) A lot of the reason why marijuana is a gateway drug, which yes it is folks (I'm surprised that didn't make your list) is that the so called drug war has marijuana as a class 1 substance and so SOME people try bud and think hey this wasn't that bad and I felt fine the next day. They put their faith in their government and think that since it is said to be just as bad as meth that maybe meth was just another lie and that stuff really isn't that bad either. Sure not everyone is going to follow that same model but prohibition never works. Why not decriminalize possession of a reasonable amount of ALL drugs, so you can just focus on the production of them?
I'm sure some of this ran on and on but bleh it's 10am and I haven't slept.
Chalee
10.04.2009
check out Devin the dude…. good stoner music
SQueek
10.04.2009
You have some good points. I don't want to get too into it but I think if you are gonna go after Dave you should mention Seth Rogan as well. Obviously the man is an intellectual filmmaker who smokes pot, but then he makes movies where potheads are portrayed like retards. Even more ridiculous is that he complains in his film about pot not being legal, when in reality I don't think he is helping our cause in the slightest.
kyle
10.04.2009
No matter whether you're completely right or wrong, it is good to see people thinking outside the box.
zigzag
10.04.2009
i agree with chalee – devin the dude – mad good stoner music. also if you haven't been sold on reggae yet, check out the album dread are the controller – its an album of reggae dub from its early daysmore like psychedelic jamaican doo-wop music or something. i gotta say i always liked half baked too – as well as hippies, as far as i'm concerned we need more people with positive ideals promoting the herb – whats there to have against people trying to promote peace & love and all that crap? number four i guess i'm okay with it – but the reason for large amounts of young people in rehab for weed isn't necessarily cuz they need it its because theyre minors and other people put them in those institutions. and as far as people using it as an escape – that doesn't necessarily mean its addicting either, what means that its slightly addicting is the fact that there are definite withdrawal effects from ceasing habitual smoking. as far as five is concerning, who the hell knows? maybe its better to bust methed out parents – but maybe its better to have treatment programs instead of jailtime. the drug "war" definitely isn't effective, stopping it doesn't mean we have to let all meth heads do whatever they want
ShaunD
10.04.2009
I absolutely agree with Kyler on Half Baked. While it's funny to laugh at silly stoner movies, as a film in and of itself, Half Baked just isn't very well constructed. There are plenty of far better stoner movies out there including one of my favorites Super Troopers.
I would also agree with TermsB in his assessment of marijuana being a gateway drug due to the incredible amounts of propaganda we are exposed to as children through government programs. And upon trying the demonized substance and finding that you haven't turned into a raging addicted psychopath one finds that it can be quite fun and relaxing.
But I would add something that, I have discussed with some stoner friends, that once one begins smoking marijuana, the mildest of drugs, one tends to make some new friends with other stoners who often have very open minds. These other open minded individuals have often tried other illegal substances such as ecstacy or hallucinagenic mushrooms. Not to say these are terrible drugs, only that they have a much more extreme effect than marijuana. I know quite a few people who have done both of these drugs for years and have quit them without a problem and others who use them regularly but show no sign of it, in other words they are indistinguishable from any other non drug user. However there are some who decide not to stop there and continue to try harder and harder substances until they inevitably try the truly hard drugs such as meth and heroine and become addicted in a way that will eventually consume their lives.
In other words I believe the propaganda against marijuana is largely responsible for marijuana being a gateway drug. Which is of course ironic since that is the very reason why there are so many groups and government practices geared toward convincing kids that marijuana is bad because its a "gateway drug". I think a huge step toward legalizing marijuana would be to do away with the propaganda such as those terrible commercials about weed which look like a 5 year old's drawings.
woodbutcher
10.04.2009
Granted 1/2 baked was no up in smoke but it was not all that bad.
being a dead head i will stay way from the music discussion altogether. number 3 is a gimme but that can be said about all things there are good and bad people in govt education drugs banking etc. etc.
#4 you are very mistaken. at best cannabis is habit forming like chocolate or soda pop. addictive no freaking way. i am a recovering heroin addict and spent over 25 yrs of my life addicted to cocaine and heroin. cannabis has been proven in more than one study to reduce the the cravings for heroin and coke for people in recovery. a study done on people recieving methadone maintnence showed the clients who used cannabis with their daily dose of methadone were far more liely to abstain from using heroin or cocaine and they had better attendence to the required counsleing sessions and groups . having been on the MMP for over 10 yrs now i can attest to this the clients who smoke pot are far healthier and hapier and more of them are employed than the ones who do not use cannabis with their daily dose of methadone.. as far as # 5 goes ARE YOU HIGH locking a person in a cage for having a drug problem is never going to work. every country that has decrimed or medicalised hard drugs has seen huge drops in crime across the board and major increases in people seeking treatment . plus it put’s a lot of steroid pumped narco’s out of work. you talked about violence . the violence from the WOD is from the narcos taking steroids and kicking the wrong doors killing innocent people remember the 92 year-old grandmother who was killed after cops broke down her door during a botched drug raid. or jonathan magbie 21 died in a jail cell gasping for air he needed a reperator to breath the judge knew this and still sent him to jail for possesion of less than 1 ounce of weed he died from respitory failure he has a quadraplegic who needed a respirator to breath at night the jail didnt have one. so to the idea of continuing the WOD i say emphaticly hell NO . we have spilled enough innocent blood so a few low life narcos can have a cushy job while other cops work for a living
cvc
10.05.2009
Wow? No stoner metal love? Close-minded fucks. You wouldn't know about the genre because you're not open to it, nor would you with an attitude like that. Yeah, all that exists in music that might be somewhat marijuana influenced is rap and reggae, you cock.
KylerDurden
10.05.2009
Thanks for all the feedback (expect cvc, who just seems to be angry at the world in general). The best part about having discussions like this is that it opens up everyone's mind to new thoughts and ideas. All of you guys make great points, but i feel i must address #4 most of all. What i was saying was that anyone UNDER 20 years of age are more likely to become addicted to cannabis. once you reach a certain age, you can control everything in moderation (wood butcher's comparison to chocolate and pop was perfect).i said it CAN be addictive, not it IS addictive. also, thanks for the tips about the stoner music, I'll totally check that stuff out.
Thanks again for the feedback guys!
serge
10.05.2009
i disagree about half baked and stoner music.
halfbaked was hilarious just because of how ridiculous it was. forget making sense and accept it for what it is and youll enjoy it.
as for the music, well, you cant JUST listen to "stoner" music and not think they all sound the same after a while. when theyre all talking about the same thing, that tends to happen. mix up your playlist. if you have "sensi" by the long beach dub allstars followed by "get high" by styles p, make sure you bump alice in chains "them bones" or audio slaves "show me how to live". youll unhate stoner music, lol.
aside from that, shit, you said things that should be repeated alot more. alot of people need reality checks.
Reverend Robert
10.05.2009
Very interesting blog. I’ll toss you my two cents.
1- Could not disagree with you more on that one. I loved Half-Baked. Honestly, I can see where you’re coming from, but I think you’re looking at the film the wrong way. It’s intended to be an over the top, kinda ridiculous movie. When it comes to drug movies, I look at them three different ways. You’ve got your rags to riches, rise and fall of a dealer stories (Scarface, Blow) that focus more on the lifestyle rather than the effects of drugs themselves. You’ve got your addiction stories in which the drugs basically play the antagonist (Trainspotting, Requiem for a Dream) Finally, you’ve got your no strings attached, no moral intended, good time movies (Half Baked, any Cheech & Chong). Just remember that Half-Baked falls into that third category. Sure, some of the smoking scenes are WTF-worthy, but it also had it’s moments to balance that out. Remember
Reverend Robert
10.05.2009
Very interesting blog. I’ll toss you my two cents.
1- Could not disagree with you more on that one. I loved Half-Baked. Honestly, I can see where you’re coming from, but I think you’re looking at the film the wrong way. It’s intended to be an over the top, kinda ridiculous movie. When it comes to drug movies, I look at them three different ways. 1- You’ve got your rags to riches, rise and fall of a dealer stories (Scarface, Blow) that focus more on the lifestyle rather than the effects of drugs themselves. 2- You’ve got your addiction stories in which the drugs basically play the antagonist (Trainspotting, Requiem for a Dream) 3- Finally, you’ve got your no strings attached, no moral intended, good time movies (Half Baked, any Cheech & Chong). Just remember that Half-Baked falls into that third category. Sure, some of the smoking scenes are What the fuck?-worthy, but it balances it out with the realistic parts of pot-smoking as well. The characters were such good friends and bond over smoking bud like a lot of potheads do. It had the girlfriend wanting the guy to quit (we’ve all been there or at least know someone that has). To sum it up… I agree with you on the cartoonish nature of the film , but besides that, I think it was a pretty believable movie. I also found it pretty funny, but I can understand how it wouldn’t be compatible with your sense of humor. I still think you’re missing out if you don’t give it another chance, though. Look at it for what it’s supposed to be.
2- Good god, I want to shake your hand over this one because you, sir, could not be more correct. KMK is a fucking horrible, obnoxious excuse for music. Stoner music is a funny label actually… There’s plenty of bands that smoke pot, but I have noticed a band usually has to call itself stoner music or really obsess over pot in the lyrics and artwork to be considered that. I hate nearly everything I hear carrying that label. With some exception… I recently discovered Electric Wizard (labeled as “stoner metal”) and that is a kickass band if you enjoy good heavy music. By that, I mean no growling like a wannabe lion and constant double-bassing. If you’re a fan of Black Sabbath (Ozzy Osbourne years, of course), I guarantee you will love Electric Wizard. I have been listening to their self-titled album almost every day since I got it. Plus, it really makes no sense as in…What the hell is that supposed to mean? Because I smoke pot, I’ll enjoy the music? Yep, I’m with 100% on this one…stoner music is a buzzkill.
3- Completely with you on this one, too. I have met plenty of those said “5th grade IQ” potheads. Nothing is more fucking annoying than listening to somebody blame their pot-smoking on their laziness, stupidity, and lack of will to do anything. To anyone who acts like that: You were a jackass before you ever hit your first bud! Stop making us look like morons.
4- You hit this one right on as well. Marijuana can be very mentally addicting. But so can chewing gum, biting your nails, masturbating, etc. Addiction is just a nasty word for some and I think no feathers would be ruffled at all if people explained it without using the word itself, but still giving out the same message. What’s funny about that is I can be that way sometimes. Example: I am strongly drawn to smoking marijuana on a regular basis. Maybe I could say I’m addicted to that high, euphoric feeling and that sweet ganja taste filling my mouth and lungs. BUT I would not consider myself a marijuana addict. I can go without weed and be fine because there’s no physical addiction to speak of, but damn do I want to get high. That might not make too much sense, but think about this way… Addicting and addict as terms hold different weight for me. I would consider an addict someone hopelessly stuck in a cycle of using/doing with their life completely built around getting that fix, whatever it may be. “Addicting” is a property of something else and I take it as “easy to be drawn to with potential for addiction” which anything could fall under.
5- Okay, definitely not with you on this one. The War on Drugs is a demon created by Richard Nixon and anybody stupid enough to believe his bullshit. A demon far more evil than the heroin, cocaine problems of the United States. We already agree about the soft drugs, so I won’t even touch on that. I think hard drugs should be legal and regulated for many reasons. First and most important, many evil men have become way too powerful and the prohibition of drugs in the U.S. is the biggest contributing factor. Do you realize how much dirty money is in the streets? Do you realize how much tax revenue and real jobs would come in if that money was clean? If all drugs were legal, this country could get out of debt. Drugs are not going anywhere ever. Can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em and make money off of them. Money that can build schools and provide legit jobs as opposed to funding a bloodbath. The addicts aren’t the big problem either , it’s the importers. You know, the big time dealers. The violence surrounding them is brutal and needs to be stopped. Think about alcohol’s forbidden era. All that accomplished, literally, was making a shitload of mobsters filthy rich. Same case today with drugs. Also consider the illicit nature of the business, there’s no one to regulate it. If users had access to clean, pure forms of the drug of choice that could be bought legally, they could live more productive lives instead of being jobless because of drug tests and financing crime.
Stephen
10.06.2009
A few good points, and a few bad points.
First of all, Half Baked, and many other stoner movies, save Cheech and Chong, range from being so-so to down right boring. Personally, I didn't think Pineapple Express was all that great.
You're right about the music, it is so hard to find decent music these days, especially music that has marijuana references. I hear songs all the time about alcohol, but throw a song out there about marijuana and it becomes taboo. I find the best stoner music isn't the new stuff, but the older reliable stuff. Listening to the likes of SRV, Ozzy, The Eagles, and many others. The large majority of rap is weak lyrics about idiots talking about doing drugs, making their money, and smacking their "bitches" around, among other things.
I've been saying for a long time that there's quite a few stoners out there that are giving everyone else a bad name, and this needs to be minimized in order to help the legalization movement. The worst offense I see though, isn't the jackass making a fool out of themselves. The real problem lies in movements and promotions about marijuana that look and sound completely unprofessional and makes it seem like a bunch of morons are behind this movement.
Marijuana can be addictive, per se. The problem is many are labeled as addicts when in reality, they just like to smoke a lot. Most people can quit at any time they like, but there are those who do have trouble quitting at times. I wouldn't call this addictiveness as much as I would call it dependence. Good thing marijuana is one of the least dangerous drugs known to man.
The war on drugs should be completely stopped. You are flat out wrong here. With complete legalization and regulation, similar to decriminalization in Holland, usage of hard drugs would significantly drop as the drug business moves from the streets to the stores. What this really comes down to is Liberty. People have the right to put anything they so desire in their bodies so long as they cause no harm to anyone else. We would still have laws in place that make their harmful actions against other people illegal, and in cases of drug abusers, treatment would be substituted for prison time. Putting people in prison only furthers their dependence on the people that sell and push the hard drugs.
Dude
10.07.2009
I’m wondering what your IQ is because if you understood at all how IQ is defined/determined, you would realize that saying, “I Appear To Have The IQ Of A 5th Grader” makes zero f***ing sense.
chuck
12.18.2010
lets confuse the topic more by saying, what about the show "are you smarter then a fifth grader."
Sinistry
10.17.2009
Oh…. anyone who said Sublime is right on. Not a huge fan of all of their stuff, but the stuff I do like is magnificent.
SWADED
11.01.2009
1. Its a Classic so fuck you.
2. Plenty of great stoner music. Get the Fuck off the couch you lazy stoner! your part of the People that give stoners a bad name.
3. Its been said dumb ass.
4. There is nothing wrong with enjoying some cool weather, Fuck the Global Warming, Try Recycling how hard is it for you to get of the couch and recycle your mountain dew bottles.
5. IF IT AINT GREEN IT AINT CLEAN.
So Kyler Durden, funny how you take the name from Fight Club and change one letter, But you are a Fucking horrible example of a Stoner. Do us all a favor and quit. Become emo or something. Fuck You
mustard and pickles
11.04.2009
first. maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to rethink what you're saying about tree-hugging. the earth has survived for quite a while with all kinds of wild stuff happening to it. the organisms living on it have not. if you dream of your progeny mating with dirt and water, then i understand your stance completely. if not, then shut the fuck up—you're speaking out of ignorance.
second. good music is not included in bags of weed or doritos—though you may find some under a couch. go to last.fm. search stoner. skip songs you don't like. it might take you five minutes to find a good song on there. wikipedia is another alternative. don't be afraid to follow a thread. it won't bite. popular music gets old and depressing. you're not the first to notice this phenomenon.
third. half baked is boring. it is also great. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. smoking weed helps people appreciate menial things. so does zen buddhism.
fourth. the rest of this bullshit could have been avoided (and now hopefully amended) by reading beyond the surface of these issues or at least watching an informed documentary. you should check this one out if you're interested… www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/educat…
most stoners won't hate you for saying these things, but it's tiring hearing the same old bullshit. this isn't groundbreaking, it's popular opinion.
screwedup420
06.21.2010
START LISTENING TO DJ SCREW YOU WILL ENJOY!!!!
taylor
06.28.2010
well sir all i have to say is this like half baked great movie bad script n all yeah but great while baked…there is great stoner music u just didnt take your time to find it…most toners o give others a bad name of course i mean damn there high??? lol and the addictive thing ok my brother smokes everyday with me and makes strait a's and is ranked 15 in our school idk wtf people are thinking oh btw war on drugs should be stopped they are spending all the money your parents send like in every check to fucking bust bitches with drugs yeah btw they r not going to become successfull with drugs they might as well just let the shit continue because were in a recession were poor as fuck here around southern Illinois but in the end all i have to say is fuck the government make the damn shit legal already there waisting there time my time an my parents fucking money!!!!!
taylor
06.28.2010
oh btw bob marley is the fucking sht
FTW
06.28.2010
btw shaunD like yeah there iis pictures of weed n all in super troopers id like you to point out where it became a stoner movie? is it just because they fuck with people on drugs? ugh the world has gone fucking mad everyone should just sit down and roll a joint XD
josh
09.12.2010
I can't say I disagree with you on most of this stuff. I've never seen Half Baked myself but I'm willing to bet it's probably not as good as everyone makes it out to be. The whole stoner music thing, you hit the nail on the head! It's really lame when an artist is singing just for marijuana. The best stoner music is the stuff that is not intentionally stoner music (and pretty much any rock music from the 70's). I do disagree with your reggae theory though. I do find old school, dub reggae pretty awesome (stoned or sober).
Patrick bateman
12.15.2010
I fucking hate stoners more than any type of person I’ve ever met.
1 they’re all a fucking banwagon that think they’re cool
2 stoners obsess over smoking weed… I have no problem with smoking weed but when all you do is tell people about how much weed you smoke and how cool that is you are something I like to call fucking retarded.
3 stoners ruin cult movies and great music and all kinds of forms of art that got turned into god damn ban wagon that stoners all hope on because they’re so fucking cool… All stoner music sucks and yeah that includes bob Marley… I could fucking write better songs than him without even having hands to play it…
4 hipsters generally fall into a sub category of stoners and I’ll adress some of the political beliefs of both… Just because you are one of those stereotypes doesn’t mean you should be liberal… In fact some of the left like myself fucking hate people like both of you for making us out to be god damned disney channel fairy tales…
chickkkkkk
12.18.2010
1. Wasn't into it either.
2. If by what you that there is no good music made by stoners then i agree. All of cypress hills music did sound the same to me even thought i liked the first 20 seconds of insane in the brain. I'm not into Reggae either, who said all stoners had to be. Me and my friends listen to instense hardcore music yet we look like regular stoners.
4. I agree with someone above, it seems more like habit forming but maybe its just denial.
5. Agreed, drugs in the long run are kept illegal for good reasons. Unfortunately i think marijuana should too. Its a bit funner that way anyway.
biff
12.29.2010
Silly stoners, weed is for idiots.
Tom
06.03.2011
I feel you on most of these, man. I do. The only things where my personal opinion differs from yours is in the music and types of stoners. I love 60's hippie music. I was born in the 80s (I know, gross right). I love listening to my fathers Woodstock CD's and relaxing with some herb. The other is the two types of stoners that give the rest a bad name. I'm a hippie. I accept this. I love the fashion (or some would argue lack thereof), I love the mindset and I just feel so close to the values. That said, yes I wear hippie clothes, yes I smoke herb on the weekends. I'm a Wiccan, a believer in a nature-based religion. *gets down off religious soap box*. Do I think a few plastic bottles will kill mother earth? No. But it never hurts for me personally to just recycle. I'm not mad at anything you've said (mainly cuz I'm totally baked.), I'm just adding my personal feelings. And isnt that what smoking the good plant is all about? Connecting with others and respecting all walks of life? Peace love and happy medicating man.
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